Comments on: All Souls tradition http://www.cornellsociety.org/2008/10/all-souls-tradition-simultaneous-masses/ Unity in charity, diversity in truth Mon, 10 Oct 2011 03:49:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=abc By: Fr. Scott Bailey, C.Ss.R. http://www.cornellsociety.org/2008/10/all-souls-tradition-simultaneous-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-83962 Fr. Scott Bailey, C.Ss.R. Thu, 06 Nov 2008 23:49:55 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/?p=2391#comment-83962 It was often the case that at funerals where many priests were present there would be Masses celebrated at the lateral altars while the Solemn Mass was sung at the high altar. In parishes served by religious it was a daily event that Masses were celebrated at different altars at the same time, sometimes in shifts if the number of priests was great. Usually on All Soul's Day (and Christmas) a priest would celebrate the three Masses consecutively unless he was scheduled for the high altar. It was often the case that at funerals where many priests were present there would be Masses celebrated at the lateral altars while the Solemn Mass was sung at the high altar. In parishes served by religious it was a daily event that Masses were celebrated at different altars at the same time, sometimes in shifts if the number of priests was great.

Usually on All Soul’s Day (and Christmas) a priest would celebrate the three Masses consecutively unless he was scheduled for the high altar.

]]> By: Iosephus http://www.cornellsociety.org/2008/10/all-souls-tradition-simultaneous-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-81130 Iosephus Wed, 29 Oct 2008 02:00:20 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/?p=2391#comment-81130 Yes, and you can see the same thing at Clear Creek. Perhaps - faciebam e rivo flumina magna - in my first, initial reading of their announcement, my impression was that something special was mixed up with the simultaneity. But I don't suppose so now: just for whatever reason, they decided to do these low Masses at the same time. Yes, and you can see the same thing at Clear Creek. Perhaps – faciebam e rivo flumina magna – in my first, initial reading of their announcement, my impression was that something special was mixed up with the simultaneity. But I don’t suppose so now: just for whatever reason, they decided to do these low Masses at the same time.

]]> By: Henry http://www.cornellsociety.org/2008/10/all-souls-tradition-simultaneous-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-81044 Henry Tue, 28 Oct 2008 18:54:30 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/?p=2391#comment-81044 In June of 2007 (just before the 7/7/2007 motu proprio) I attended the ordination by Ab. Burke of two ICK priests in his St. Louis Cathedral Basilica. Early the next morning, I arrived early -- over an hour before the scheduled first solemn high Mass of one of the new priests -- at St. Francis de Sales Oratory (ICK) there. I immediately saw that five separate silent low Masses had begun, each with just the priest and a single altar boy, had apparently just started at five different (one main and four side) altars. They were somewhat staggered, so in the space of 10 minutes I was able to adore our Lord at 10 separate elevations of Body and Blood. Wow! I was reminded of a remark attributed to then Cardinal Ratzinger several years back when he had a similar experience at Fontgombeault, having arrived early one morning while the monks were all saying their individual private Masses. "Now this is the real Catholic Church," he whispered to his escort. In June of 2007 (just before the 7/7/2007 motu proprio) I attended the ordination by Ab. Burke of two ICK priests in his St. Louis Cathedral Basilica. Early the next morning, I arrived early — over an hour before the scheduled first solemn high Mass of one of the new priests — at St. Francis de Sales Oratory (ICK) there. I immediately saw that five separate silent low Masses had begun, each with just the priest and a single altar boy, had apparently just started at five different (one main and four side) altars. They were somewhat staggered, so in the space of 10 minutes I was able to adore our Lord at 10 separate elevations of Body and Blood. Wow! I was reminded of a remark attributed to then Cardinal Ratzinger several years back when he had a similar experience at Fontgombeault, having arrived early one morning while the monks were all saying their individual private Masses. “Now this is the real Catholic Church,” he whispered to his escort.

]]> By: JPG http://www.cornellsociety.org/2008/10/all-souls-tradition-simultaneous-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-80122 JPG Sat, 25 Oct 2008 11:24:57 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/?p=2391#comment-80122 If I remember Merton's description of the private Masses being said in his Monastery was similar. If I remember correctly he describes the Sun streaming in as different places in the Mass for the different priests. Some of the priest monks being veated over their work boots. Merton was struck by the Universality and the beauty of the moment. I think it was Seven Storey Mountain but it has been twenty years, Thus Simultaneaously may not be that unusual or out of place. JPG If I remember Merton’s description of the private Masses being said in his Monastery was similar. If I remember correctly he describes the Sun streaming in as different places in the Mass for the different priests. Some of the priest monks being veated over their work boots. Merton was struck by the Universality and the beauty of the moment. I think it was Seven Storey Mountain but it has been twenty years, Thus Simultaneaously may not be that unusual or out of place.
JPG

]]> By: Iosephus http://www.cornellsociety.org/2008/10/all-souls-tradition-simultaneous-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-79796 Iosephus Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:53:57 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/?p=2391#comment-79796 That's great that they have the priests who are willing to say their Masses on that day in such a way as to make the point! That’s great that they have the priests who are willing to say their Masses on that day in such a way as to make the point!

]]> By: Ben http://www.cornellsociety.org/2008/10/all-souls-tradition-simultaneous-masses/comment-page-1/#comment-79788 Ben Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:19:48 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/?p=2391#comment-79788 I dont think that it is an All Souls day tradition in particular to have masses simultaneously. The practice of having simutaneous masses is fairly rare and traditional in that it demonstrates the nature and value of the Holy Sacrifice, at odds with the common novus ordo opinion that "active participation"[busibodiness, horizontalism] is esential to the mass I dont think that it is an All Souls day tradition in particular to have masses simultaneously. The practice of having simutaneous masses is fairly rare and traditional in that it demonstrates the nature and value of the Holy Sacrifice, at odds with the common novus ordo opinion that “active participation”[busibodiness, horizontalism] is esential to the mass

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