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	<title>Comments on: Wanted: More Gothic Churches</title>
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		<title>By: JDN</title>
		<link>http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/11/wanted-more-gothic-churches/#comment-30085</link>
		<dc:creator>JDN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 03:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Speaking of odd choir locations, St. Peter Prince of the Apostles in Alamo Heights (in San Antonio, TX) has their choir behind the altar.  Also, the congregation is arranged in three sections facing the altar from basically east, west, and south (choir being north).  The _ONE_ time I went I had the pleasure of seeing the "choir" director putting her arms and head on the rail separating the choir from the altar just resting while the priest was finishing up after Communion.  

The priest also said, "My sisters and brothers..." instead of the common, "...brothers and sisters..."  I have heard this occasionally at other parishes as well.  Is this some kind of new politically-correct garbage that the Pope began to allow or is it a kind of Catholic guilt symptom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Speaking of odd choir locations, St. Peter Prince of the Apostles in Alamo Heights (in San Antonio, TX) has their choir behind the altar.  Also, the congregation is arranged in three sections facing the altar from basically east, west, and south (choir being north).  The _ONE_ time I went I had the pleasure of seeing the &#8220;choir&#8221; director putting her arms and head on the rail separating the choir from the altar just resting while the priest was finishing up after Communion.  </p>
<p>The priest also said, &#8220;My sisters and brothers&#8230;&#8221; instead of the common, &#8220;&#8230;brothers and sisters&#8230;&#8221;  I have heard this occasionally at other parishes as well.  Is this some kind of new politically-correct garbage that the Pope began to allow or is it a kind of Catholic guilt symptom?</p>
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		<title>By: Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/11/wanted-more-gothic-churches/#comment-29032</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 02:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just wanted to inject a couple of points about the Cathedral of Christ the King (which happens to be my cathedral) that might make things a little more understandable.  

First let me say that I am sorry that you discovered the Cathedral at the Life Teen mess rather than during one of the "normal" Masses.  

The church was indeed constructed in the 1940s but was not constructed as a cathedral.  Rather it was a parish church for what was, and still is, a rather affluent neighborhood.  It was only elivated in 1988 when the diocese was created.  The curious thing is that the free standing altar was placed in its current possition during the original construction, the sanctuary was never "wreckovated,"  sadly, it's always looked like that.  

A couple other curiosities is that the "chapel" where you found the Blessed Sacrament housed was originally the baptistry.  Also had you crossed the nave to into the other transept and followed the signs you would have found a perpetual adoration chapel.  

So I do hope that your experience has not put you off the Cathedral entirely.  I hope that you will come back for the high Mass, particularly the pontifical high Mass at CTK.  Even though it is the Novus, I assure you that it will be the precise opposite of your unnerving Life Teen encounter.  

Joe J.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just wanted to inject a couple of points about the Cathedral of Christ the King (which happens to be my cathedral) that might make things a little more understandable.  </p>
<p>First let me say that I am sorry that you discovered the Cathedral at the Life Teen mess rather than during one of the &#8220;normal&#8221; Masses.  </p>
<p>The church was indeed constructed in the 1940s but was not constructed as a cathedral.  Rather it was a parish church for what was, and still is, a rather affluent neighborhood.  It was only elivated in 1988 when the diocese was created.  The curious thing is that the free standing altar was placed in its current possition during the original construction, the sanctuary was never &#8220;wreckovated,&#8221;  sadly, it&#8217;s always looked like that.  </p>
<p>A couple other curiosities is that the &#8220;chapel&#8221; where you found the Blessed Sacrament housed was originally the baptistry.  Also had you crossed the nave to into the other transept and followed the signs you would have found a perpetual adoration chapel.  </p>
<p>So I do hope that your experience has not put you off the Cathedral entirely.  I hope that you will come back for the high Mass, particularly the pontifical high Mass at CTK.  Even though it is the Novus, I assure you that it will be the precise opposite of your unnerving Life Teen encounter.  </p>
<p>Joe J.</p>
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		<title>By: CPT Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/11/wanted-more-gothic-churches/#comment-25572</link>
		<dc:creator>CPT Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:18:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The old cathedral in Hartford was a Gothic church...unfortunately it burnt down in 1956:  Pictures here:
http://www.cathedralofsaintjoseph.com/1956.html

I agree with you Clara about how chunky and scary this era of church building is.  Though, I am particularly disgusted with the "Flying Saucer" phase that seemed to be popular from the 1960s through the 80s.  St Mary Our Mother in Horseheads is a typical example.  Ugly on the outside and disturbing on the inside.  Angular lines, bad "stained" glass. No tabernacle even in the Church proper...they have a "adoration" chapel that is usually locked.  The Ambo is located Behind the altar, and the choir is located to the left of the altar.  It is a strange place indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The old cathedral in Hartford was a Gothic church&#8230;unfortunately it burnt down in 1956:  Pictures here:<br />
<a href="http://www.cathedralofsaintjoseph.com/1956.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cathedralofsaintjoseph.com/1956.html</a></p>
<p>I agree with you Clara about how chunky and scary this era of church building is.  Though, I am particularly disgusted with the &#8220;Flying Saucer&#8221; phase that seemed to be popular from the 1960s through the 80s.  St Mary Our Mother in Horseheads is a typical example.  Ugly on the outside and disturbing on the inside.  Angular lines, bad &#8220;stained&#8221; glass. No tabernacle even in the Church proper&#8230;they have a &#8220;adoration&#8221; chapel that is usually locked.  The Ambo is located Behind the altar, and the choir is located to the left of the altar.  It is a strange place indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: JSP</title>
		<link>http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/11/wanted-more-gothic-churches/#comment-25557</link>
		<dc:creator>JSP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:21:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: JSP</title>
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		<dc:creator>JSP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just checked the Hartford Cathedral website and it's really interesting how similar these two buildings are.  I wonder if they are the same architect..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just checked the Hartford Cathedral website and it&#8217;s really interesting how similar these two buildings are.  I wonder if they are the same architect..</p>
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		<title>By: JSP</title>
		<link>http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/11/wanted-more-gothic-churches/#comment-25555</link>
		<dc:creator>JSP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've only driven past it, but at first glance that picture also looks like the cathedral in Hartford, CT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve only driven past it, but at first glance that picture also looks like the cathedral in Hartford, CT.</p>
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