Comments on: We have a priest in Jamaica Estates http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/ Unity in charity, diversity in truth Thu, 20 Nov 2008 18:50:27 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: CPT Tom http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/#comment-16790 CPT Tom Tue, 17 Jul 2007 17:21:29 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/#comment-16790 Iosephus, Cool. I sometimes have felt like Jean-Valjean in Le Miserable...having to have my papers to prove my parole. Anyway, I am starting talks with the PA we have here who is a sincere Permanant Deacon, while of a Progressive stripe he will go "by the book" when it is shown to him. He approached me about doing a more traditional NO Mass before the Moto Proprio. My plan is for this parish, easing into one of the masses going from zero to Latin NO over months (by Christmas if possible). Then Taking that mass and move it to a Extraordinary (Classic?) mass after or during Easter. This will give time for the congregation to get used to Latin and get a priest, servers, chant choir and cantors to support it. Iosephus, Cool. I sometimes have felt like Jean-Valjean in Le Miserable…having to have my papers to prove my parole.

Anyway, I am starting talks with the PA we have here who is a sincere Permanant Deacon, while of a Progressive stripe he will go “by the book” when it is shown to him. He approached me about doing a more traditional NO Mass before the Moto Proprio. My plan is for this parish, easing into one of the masses going from zero to Latin NO over months (by Christmas if possible). Then Taking that mass and move it to a Extraordinary (Classic?) mass after or during Easter. This will give time for the congregation to get used to Latin and get a priest, servers, chant choir and cantors to support it.

]]> By: Iosephus http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/#comment-16786 Iosephus Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:33:20 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/#comment-16786 I don't know, Cpt Tom, you sure sound like a traddie to me. And I don't know who would have a problem with marriage after an annulment, especially when the grounds are plain for all to see. Well, if something comes up in your area, and a handful of graduate students might be of assistance, let us know. Likewise, we'll let you know. Two events to keep in mind where we might meet up: <a href="http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/august-18th-latin-mass-pilgrimage-doylestown-pa/" rel="nofollow">Doylestown Latin Mass pilgrimage August 18th</a> and the <a href="http://www.national-coalition.org/pilgrim/index.html" rel="nofollow">Pilgrimage for Restoration in Auriesville on September 29</a>. I don’t know, Cpt Tom, you sure sound like a traddie to me. And I don’t know who would have a problem with marriage after an annulment, especially when the grounds are plain for all to see.

Well, if something comes up in your area, and a handful of graduate students might be of assistance, let us know. Likewise, we’ll let you know.

Two events to keep in mind where we might meet up: Doylestown Latin Mass pilgrimage August 18th and the Pilgrimage for Restoration in Auriesville on September 29.

]]> By: CPT Tom http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/#comment-16784 CPT Tom Tue, 17 Jul 2007 11:13:05 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/#comment-16784 Well, there's me and my wife...There are people who I think would also support an extraordinary mass, though I'm not sure how large the underground really is. There are also those that have gone off to the Benedictine abby in the area who may assist or at least be fellow travellers I think that if a take over of the liturgical committee happened and things gradually changed, this parish is a possible takeover target. Let me make sure I'm clear who I am just some things. 1. I'm not a traddie, I'm an orthodox Catholic who grew up in the NO (I'm 43). but has come to the conclusion that while the NO is valid, it is mostly not done, especially in this diocese, with the reverence or humility that our Lord calls us to do. 2. What we've done the last 40 years has been toxic. I accept Vatican II as valid, but, the whole execution was botched at the best, or deliberately used to justify a whole bunch of things that shouldn't of happened. Turning back the clock? No, I'd like to forget the last 40 years have happened and rewind to after the council. It happened, but it sure didn't have to happen the way it did. 3. I am a divorced, annulled and remarried Catholic. If that's a problem for anyone, sorry, but this is the way it is. Short story, Life doesn't always go according to plan, and sometimes you marry a crazy women who not only makes it miserable for you (which, I put up with) and abuses your kids (not cool. deal breaker). I have made my peace with God and Church. I don't make a big deal about it (Divorce is still wrong as far as I'm concerned) so, if this is a deal breaker for you guys fine. Well, there’s me and my wife…There are people who I think would also support an extraordinary mass, though I’m not sure how large the underground really is. There are also those that have gone off to the Benedictine abby in the area who may assist or at least be fellow travellers I think that if a take over of the liturgical committee happened and things gradually changed, this parish is a possible takeover target.

Let me make sure I’m clear who I am just some things.

1. I’m not a traddie, I’m an orthodox Catholic who grew up in the NO (I’m 43). but has come to the conclusion that while the NO is valid, it is mostly not done, especially in this diocese, with the reverence or humility that our Lord calls us to do.

2. What we’ve done the last 40 years has been toxic. I accept Vatican II as valid, but, the whole execution was botched at the best, or deliberately used to justify a whole bunch of things that shouldn’t of happened. Turning back the clock? No, I’d like to forget the last 40 years have happened and rewind to after the council. It happened, but it sure didn’t have to happen the way it did.

3. I am a divorced, annulled and remarried Catholic. If that’s a problem for anyone, sorry, but this is the way it is. Short story, Life doesn’t always go according to plan, and sometimes you marry a crazy women who not only makes it miserable for you (which, I put up with) and abuses your kids (not cool. deal breaker). I have made my peace with God and Church. I don’t make a big deal about it (Divorce is still wrong as far as I’m concerned) so, if this is a deal breaker for you guys fine.

]]> By: Iosephus http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/#comment-16767 Iosephus Sun, 15 Jul 2007 23:28:52 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/#comment-16767 Cpt Tom, how many are you? I'd like to think that, somehow, just maybe, we could pool resources, or pool resources and numbers on occasion, to make things happen. Franciscus, Catharina Oxoniensis and I were talking about this at brunch this morning. Cpt Tom, how many are you? I’d like to think that, somehow, just maybe, we could pool resources, or pool resources and numbers on occasion, to make things happen. Franciscus, Catharina Oxoniensis and I were talking about this at brunch this morning.

]]> By: Cpt Tom http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/#comment-16763 Cpt Tom Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:50:50 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/#comment-16763 Yes indeed I signed up with the database. I want to do what I can to get a regular mass of the extraordinary format either here in Corning or in the Corning - Elmira Area. Seemingly Impossible. Of course, but the Lord can make all things possible. Yes indeed I signed up with the database. I want to do what I can to get a regular mass of the extraordinary format either here in Corning or in the Corning - Elmira Area. Seemingly Impossible. Of course, but the Lord can make all things possible.

]]> By: Iosephus http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/#comment-16733 Iosephus Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:26:16 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/#comment-16733 Discipulus: single persons. Discipulus: single persons.

]]> By: Ben Douglass http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/#comment-16731 Ben Douglass Sat, 14 Jul 2007 14:12:43 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/#comment-16731 Iosephus, The priest is Fr. Saunders, pastor of Our Lady of Hope in Potomac Falls, VA. I live in Herndon, VA. Iosephus,

The priest is Fr. Saunders, pastor of Our Lady of Hope in Potomac Falls, VA. I live in Herndon, VA.

]]> By: Discipulus http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/#comment-16727 Discipulus Sat, 14 Jul 2007 10:24:19 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/#comment-16727 Is this 664 families or single persons? Is this 664 families or single persons?

]]> By: Iosephus http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/#comment-16713 Iosephus Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:45:39 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/#comment-16713 That's very cool, Ben! Can you give us a little write up of your situation thus far? Where you are, who this priest is, and where these Masses might happen? That’s very cool, Ben! Can you give us a little write up of your situation thus far? Where you are, who this priest is, and where these Masses might happen?

]]> By: Ben Douglass http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/#comment-16711 Ben Douglass Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:29:30 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/#comment-16711 The database is up to 664 now. I've already found a contact through it and, <em>Deo gratias</em>, my contact already has a priest on board. The database is up to 664 now. I’ve already found a contact through it and, Deo gratias, my contact already has a priest on board.

]]> By: Discipulus http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/#comment-16709 Discipulus Fri, 13 Jul 2007 22:00:29 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/#comment-16709 I think there are some priests out there, especially the younger ones, who would be willing to learn the Traditional Mass if they were approached personally. If they meet good representatives of the movement who are willing to go out and knock on doors, they will respond. This is taking “involvement in the liturgy” to a higher level. There’s nothing as effective as going out and personally meeting people. Ask any successful salesman. Cold calls are the toughest but the most productive. “Ask and you shall receive, seek and you shall find, knock and it shall be opened to you.” I think there are some priests out there, especially the younger ones, who would be willing to learn the Traditional Mass if they were approached personally. If they meet good representatives of the movement who are willing to go out and knock on doors, they will respond. This is taking “involvement in the liturgy” to a higher level. There’s nothing as effective as going out and personally meeting people. Ask any successful salesman. Cold calls are the toughest but the most productive. “Ask and you shall receive, seek and you shall find, knock and it shall be opened to you.”

]]> By: Iosephus http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/#comment-16701 Iosephus Fri, 13 Jul 2007 19:09:20 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/#comment-16701 There is an indult in Syracuse (soon to move from its present location to the Basilica) and there's an indult in Binghamton (both one hour from Ithaca). The SSPX has a chapel and school in Syracuse. There is an FSSP parish in Scranton (two hours distant from Ithaca). There are two Eastern Rite Catholic Churches in Binghamton as well. That's the scene as I understand it. When will you be in Ithaca? There is an indult in Syracuse (soon to move from its present location to the Basilica) and there’s an indult in Binghamton (both one hour from Ithaca). The SSPX has a chapel and school in Syracuse. There is an FSSP parish in Scranton (two hours distant from Ithaca). There are two Eastern Rite Catholic Churches in Binghamton as well. That’s the scene as I understand it.

When will you be in Ithaca?

]]> By: mxsmokewood http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/#comment-16700 mxsmokewood Fri, 13 Jul 2007 18:54:18 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/07/at-least-we-have-a-priest-in-jamaica-estates/#comment-16700 I am currently in the process of purchasing a home and moving back to the Ithaca area after graduating Cornell in 2003 with my wife and children. I have been searching the Traditio databases for a Tridentine mass near there. I have found a wonderful church here in Garden Grove, CA that says it and I would miss it terribly when I move. I am currently in the process of purchasing a home and moving back to the Ithaca area after graduating Cornell in 2003 with my wife and children. I have been searching the Traditio databases for a Tridentine mass near there. I have found a wonderful church here in Garden Grove, CA that says it and I would miss it terribly when I move.

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