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	<title>Comments on: Jesus of Nazareth</title>
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		<title>By: John Allen&#8217;s interview with Prof. Geza Vermes at Cornell Society for a Good Time</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Allen&#8217;s interview with Prof. Geza Vermes at Cornell Society for a Good Time</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 15:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] further reading, see Ambrosius&#8217; review of Benedict XVI&#8217;s Jesus of Nazereth.     Published by Iosephus May 21st, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] further reading, see Ambrosius&#8217; review of Benedict XVI&#8217;s Jesus of Nazereth.     Published by Iosephus May 21st, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PACatholic</title>
		<link>http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/06/jesus-of-nazareth/#comment-16399</link>
		<dc:creator>PACatholic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jul 2007 15:14:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The BEST thought I had was that reading the book was like the Pope talking to me!  Terrific!</description>
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		<title>By: Ambrosius</title>
		<link>http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/06/jesus-of-nazareth/#comment-16012</link>
		<dc:creator>Ambrosius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 17:21:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good points, these. Bein' as how I just heard it, rather than read it, I was less certain in my memory over those points with the Jews; and I think I just missed the part about the "eucharisic celebrations." But in our world, where priests preach about Christ's ignorant racism, for instance (I've seen it!), this is a paradigm shift kind of book, especially from the papal pen. Not everything it could be, but still a razor slicing away many of the chords holding back the full force of the Faith from flourishing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good points, these. Bein&#8217; as how I just heard it, rather than read it, I was less certain in my memory over those points with the Jews; and I think I just missed the part about the &#8220;eucharisic celebrations.&#8221; But in our world, where priests preach about Christ&#8217;s ignorant racism, for instance (I&#8217;ve seen it!), this is a paradigm shift kind of book, especially from the papal pen. Not everything it could be, but still a razor slicing away many of the chords holding back the full force of the Faith from flourishing.</p>
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		<title>By: Iosephus</title>
		<link>http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/06/jesus-of-nazareth/#comment-16010</link>
		<dc:creator>Iosephus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 16:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ambrosi, thank you for this review!  I can say, &lt;i&gt;in a certain way&lt;/i&gt;, that you beat me to it, for I had intended a review once I completed reading it, which I've been doing for some weeks now.  I have the print edition, though, and it has just been a few pages at a time for me between whiles.

I'm enjoying it for many of the reasons you've given here.  One thing I don't like, though, is his desire to avoid stepping on toes, especially Jewish toes.  I've just finished the section where Benedict dialogued with Rabbi Jacob Neusner dialoguing Christ.  Benedict doesn't skate around the fact that Christ is God, but he seems to hesitate in driving this point home to the Jews.  Instead, there's a lot of talk about the "eternal Israel", as though the Jews still kinda had some happy thing going, though they don't recognize Christ for who He is.

Another thing which bugged me: he spoke of the eucharistic celebration as being something-something in our Christian communities today.  (I don't have the book on me, so I can't give the exact quotation now.)  In my mind, at least, the most natural reading of that kind of language is that he's talking about not only Catholics but Episcopalians, Lutherans, Methodists, etc.  (Otherwise, we would have to conclude that he doesn't take the name "Christian" to apply to protestants - which would be awesome! but the same world in which bears adorn the papal liturgy.  Yet we know that Christ founded the &lt;i&gt;Catholic&lt;/i&gt; Church, that the Catholic Chuch IS the mystical body of Christ.  In what I've read so far, Benedict doesn't deny this, he just obfuscates.

Sometimes, not saying anything is prudent; sometimes, not saying anything or saying something which can easily be misinterpreted is obfuscation.  I could grant him the Jews thing, because the implication is still pretty obvious that they're wrong; but the protestants thing is too much.  Benedict is constantly talking about the Church in the book - he had better make clear, so there's no confusion, what Church we're talking about.

Catharina Oxoniensis reminded me of something Bishop Fellay had said about Benedict: at heart, he's a conservative, even traditional Catholic, but in his head, in his theological work he shows the tell-tale signs of modernism.

I think that's fair and I think that this book is a good illustration of the characterization.  I like it all the same because it's a good antidote to those who know nothing but modernism, who know nothing but an historical-critical Jesus.  Most briefly: I dislike it for what it doesn't say rather than for what it does.  I'll probably write more about particular passages later.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ambrosi, thank you for this review!  I can say, <i>in a certain way</i>, that you beat me to it, for I had intended a review once I completed reading it, which I&#8217;ve been doing for some weeks now.  I have the print edition, though, and it has just been a few pages at a time for me between whiles.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m enjoying it for many of the reasons you&#8217;ve given here.  One thing I don&#8217;t like, though, is his desire to avoid stepping on toes, especially Jewish toes.  I&#8217;ve just finished the section where Benedict dialogued with Rabbi Jacob Neusner dialoguing Christ.  Benedict doesn&#8217;t skate around the fact that Christ is God, but he seems to hesitate in driving this point home to the Jews.  Instead, there&#8217;s a lot of talk about the &#8220;eternal Israel&#8221;, as though the Jews still kinda had some happy thing going, though they don&#8217;t recognize Christ for who He is.</p>
<p>Another thing which bugged me: he spoke of the eucharistic celebration as being something-something in our Christian communities today.  (I don&#8217;t have the book on me, so I can&#8217;t give the exact quotation now.)  In my mind, at least, the most natural reading of that kind of language is that he&#8217;s talking about not only Catholics but Episcopalians, Lutherans, Methodists, etc.  (Otherwise, we would have to conclude that he doesn&#8217;t take the name &#8220;Christian&#8221; to apply to protestants - which would be awesome! but the same world in which bears adorn the papal liturgy.  Yet we know that Christ founded the <i>Catholic</i> Church, that the Catholic Chuch IS the mystical body of Christ.  In what I&#8217;ve read so far, Benedict doesn&#8217;t deny this, he just obfuscates.</p>
<p>Sometimes, not saying anything is prudent; sometimes, not saying anything or saying something which can easily be misinterpreted is obfuscation.  I could grant him the Jews thing, because the implication is still pretty obvious that they&#8217;re wrong; but the protestants thing is too much.  Benedict is constantly talking about the Church in the book - he had better make clear, so there&#8217;s no confusion, what Church we&#8217;re talking about.</p>
<p>Catharina Oxoniensis reminded me of something Bishop Fellay had said about Benedict: at heart, he&#8217;s a conservative, even traditional Catholic, but in his head, in his theological work he shows the tell-tale signs of modernism.</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s fair and I think that this book is a good illustration of the characterization.  I like it all the same because it&#8217;s a good antidote to those who know nothing but modernism, who know nothing but an historical-critical Jesus.  Most briefly: I dislike it for what it doesn&#8217;t say rather than for what it does.  I&#8217;ll probably write more about particular passages later.</p>
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