Standing on Ceremony

We have a question that I has hoped some of our readers might be able to help us with. It is perhaps known to some of you that a Nuptial Mass is forthcoming with regards to certain persons associated with this blog. What we’re interested in is the status of the Solemnization of Matrimony ceremony that appears in both the Angelus and Baronius Press 1962 Missals. Our FSSP priest offhandedly claimed that this ceremony was authorized only for use in Britain, and not in the United States. Indeed it is a much nicer ceremony (more ornate, more genteel, more English(?)) than the one found in the famous white Nuptial Mass Booklet Missals put out by the Ecclesia Dei Coalition. My question is simple: is this, in fact, correct? Is this form of Solemnization of Matrimony not approved for use in the US? And if so, isn’t it strange that the Baronius Missal (i.e. the FSSP’s “official” pew missal), which carries the Imprimatur of the Bishop of Lincoln, Nebraska, contains a ceremony that cannot be used in his diocese? Obviously, we will use the American ceremony if it is the only one permitted, but we just wanted to make sure that is the case.

4 Responses to “Standing on Ceremony”


  1. 1 Anonymous Feb 25th, 2007 at 6:27 pm

    It is all explained on pages 477-480 of Fortescue, O’Connell & Reid’s ‘Ceremonies of the Roman Rite Described’ 2003 edition.

  2. 2 Anonymous Mar 2nd, 2007 at 4:59 am

    One service is based on the Roman Rituale whilst the other on the Ordo Administrandi that preserved some of the Sarum customs.

  3. 3 Henry Mar 2nd, 2007 at 2:05 pm

    Dr. Asinorum: It seems to me your concern stems from the seeming implication of the phrase “put out by the Ecclesia Dei Coalition” that its white nuptial Mass booklet has some official status, in the U.S. or elsewhere. As I understand it, the Coalition for the Support of Ecclesia Dei — however grateful to it we traditionalists are, however wonderful folks they are, and however similar its name to that of the Vatican’s Pontifical Ecclesiae Dei Commission — is simply a private lay association with no official status (except possibly with the IRS as a tax-exempt non-profit organization). As I understand it, their red, white, and black Mass booklets — however dear and valuable to so many of us — enjoy no ecclesiastical approbation themselves, though they are extracted and compiled from 1962 missals that do, one of which is the original 1962 hand missal that both Angelus and Baronius duplicate in all essential details, with the Baronius missal enjoying a U.S imprimatur that the white Coalition E.D. nuptial missal lacks.

    In short, I would think that any worry along these lines would be regarding the white missalette, not about the Angelus and Baronius missals that (I believe) follow precisely the 1962 Typical Edition of the Missale Romanum. As, indeed, the C.E.D. missalettes do not — for instance, they include the famous “second confiteor” just before Holy Communion, which is absent from the official Latin Missale Romanum. But, finally, let me say that I have no personal concern with any of this, having just ordered a supply of the white nuptial missalettes — however “unofficial” they may be — for use in our own indult community.

  4. 4 Andrew Mar 3rd, 2007 at 6:29 pm

    The FSSP priest is wrong. The ceremony in the Baronius Missal can be used in America, as that missal is specifically geared towards be used in both the US and UK - hence why it has a rather weird address from the Bishop of Licoln, Nebraska at the beginning.

    And ‘henry’ is right - the ED booklets contain a few mistakes like the second confiteor (although they say that this is ommited in the 1962 in a side note) and stipulating that the prayers after low mass are no longer obligatory in the 1962 Missal - which is not true at all.

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