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	<title>Comments on: God&#8217;s Delight in Man</title>
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		<title>By: Tobias Petrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tobias Petrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2007 05:32:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johnboy, maybe you should read the Confessions to confirm your idea.  I think that St. Augustine went to this Manichean leader named Faustus (yep, that was his name) in the hope that Faustus would help him stay a Manichee.  But the guy's answers kept getting worse and worse -- the returns kept diminishing.  But St. Ambrose kept on giving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johnboy, maybe you should read the Confessions to confirm your idea.  I think that St. Augustine went to this Manichean leader named Faustus (yep, that was his name) in the hope that Faustus would help him stay a Manichee.  But the guy&#8217;s answers kept getting worse and worse &#8212; the returns kept diminishing.  But St. Ambrose kept on giving.</p>
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		<title>By: johnboy316</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 17:21:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've never read C.S. Lewis but I've heard that idea before (which was somewhat alluded to in my post).  Which means of course my comment was not exactly original. ;)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;But I was wondering if people can initiate to other people those same experiences -- not  just God or Satan.  Perhaps it is obvious such folks can -- given the fact that people live heaven or hell right now (or in other words they are disposed to either God or Satan working through them).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never read C.S. Lewis but I&#8217;ve heard that idea before (which was somewhat alluded to in my post).  Which means of course my comment was not exactly original. ;)</p>
<p>But I was wondering if people can initiate to other people those same experiences &#8212; not  just God or Satan.  Perhaps it is obvious such folks can &#8212; given the fact that people live heaven or hell right now (or in other words they are disposed to either God or Satan working through them).</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Smith</title>
		<link>http://www.cornellsociety.org/2007/02/gods-delight-in-man/#comment-3743</link>
		<dc:creator>Nathan Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Feb 2007 00:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johnny Boy's comment reminds me of one of my favorite passages from C.S. Lewis:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;"'Son,' he said, 'ye cannot in your present state understand eternity.... But ye can get some likeness of it if ye say that both good and evil, when they are full grown, become retrospective....  That is what mortals misunderstand.  They say of some temporal suffering, 'No future bliss can make up for it,' not knowing that Heaven, once attained, will work backwards and turn even that agony into a glory.  And of some sinful pleasure they say, 'Let me but have &lt;I&gt;this&lt;/I&gt; and I'll take the consequences": little dreaming how damnation will spread back and back into their past and contaminate the pleasure of the sin.  Both processes begin even before death.  The good man's past begins to change so that his forgiven sins and remembered sorrows take on the quality of Heaven: the bad man's past confirms to his badness and is filled only with dreariness.  And that is why, at the end of all things... the Blessed will say, 'We have never lived anywhere except in Heaven', and the Lost, 'We were always in Hell'.  And both will speak truly."</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johnny Boy&#8217;s comment reminds me of one of my favorite passages from C.S. Lewis:</p>
<p>&#8220;&#8216;Son,&#8217; he said, &#8216;ye cannot in your present state understand eternity&#8230;. But ye can get some likeness of it if ye say that both good and evil, when they are full grown, become retrospective&#8230;.  That is what mortals misunderstand.  They say of some temporal suffering, &#8216;No future bliss can make up for it,&#8217; not knowing that Heaven, once attained, will work backwards and turn even that agony into a glory.  And of some sinful pleasure they say, &#8216;Let me but have <i>this</i> and I&#8217;ll take the consequences&#8221;: little dreaming how damnation will spread back and back into their past and contaminate the pleasure of the sin.  Both processes begin even before death.  The good man&#8217;s past begins to change so that his forgiven sins and remembered sorrows take on the quality of Heaven: the bad man&#8217;s past confirms to his badness and is filled only with dreariness.  And that is why, at the end of all things&#8230; the Blessed will say, &#8216;We have never lived anywhere except in Heaven&#8217;, and the Lost, &#8216;We were always in Hell&#8217;.  And both will speak truly.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Tobias Petrus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tobias Petrus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 05:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johnboy, what you said makes sense.  I think that Our Lord backs you up, when He brings out the best wine last.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johnboy, what you said makes sense.  I think that Our Lord backs you up, when He brings out the best wine last.</p>
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		<title>By: johnboy316</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 04:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Saint folk say that one way of discerning God's involvement is that one first experiences a sense of awe or possibly fear and then later a manifestation of peace and joy.  The guy down stairs tends to be more abrupt and "exciting" (if-you-will) and then later the experience manifests a certain "disgust" or "emptiness."&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I wonder if people can also do that per se.  I think so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Saint folk say that one way of discerning God&#8217;s involvement is that one first experiences a sense of awe or possibly fear and then later a manifestation of peace and joy.  The guy down stairs tends to be more abrupt and &#8220;exciting&#8221; (if-you-will) and then later the experience manifests a certain &#8220;disgust&#8221; or &#8220;emptiness.&#8221;</p>
<p>I wonder if people can also do that per se.  I think so.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Feb 2007 02:24:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sublime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sublime.</p>
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