20 Responses to “Sung Requiem Mass for King Louis XVI: This Saturday in NYC”

1. 1 pedantic_prof Jan 17th, 2007 at 12:17 pm

   The “last true King of France”? What about Louis XVIII (1814-24) and Charles X (1824-30)? Of course one does not count the “King of the French” Louis-Philippe (1830-48).

2. 2 Ambrosius Jan 17th, 2007 at 12:32 pm

   fixed. I was thinking of unbroken succession, but that’s too narrow a way to think of it.

3. 3 Ken Jan 17th, 2007 at 2:41 pm

   Hello, I Think we have the same source. He told me at was at 1:00 which I also have on my blog,
   http://hallowedground.blog-city.com/.
   Thanks, Ken

4. 4 Tobias Petrus Jan 17th, 2007 at 2:56 pm

   Ah, the old love between traditionalism and legitimism. If only the Jacobites, the French legitimists, the Hapsburg loyalists, and the Spanish Carlists could set up their own caucus in the EU Parliament. For their emblem, I’d recommend the Cross of Jerusalem. They could call themselves “The Quixotic League of Noble Lost Causes.”

   Or maybe monarchy isn’t such a lost cause. Here’s one Catholic traditionalist’s appeal for the revival of the Holy Roman Empire: http://www.cheetah.net/~ccoulomb/eu
   ropeandtheempire.html
   He defends the Empire as the solution for many problems in modern Europe that are intractable under the current status quo.

5. 5 Joe Six Pack Jan 17th, 2007 at 3:50 pm

   Actually with the admittance of Romania and Bulgaria into the EU a new far-far-right (as the liberal establishment calls it) coalition has been established in the EU parliament. (There is certain # of MEPs needed to form a coalition and Romania and Bulgaria provided whatever # was lacking from the other countries. Le Pen’s National Front MEPs make up the largest bloc within this new coalition.)

6. 6 Tobias Petrus Jan 17th, 2007 at 3:54 pm

   Yes, JSP, Alessandra Mussolini’s in the new coalition. She’s the granddaughter of Il Duce and the niece of Sophia Loren.

7. 7 pedantic_prof Jan 17th, 2007 at 5:32 pm

   I directed our summer program in Strasbourg in 2006, and one interesting moment was during our guided visit round the European Parliament. Aside from the many anti-British comments (they assumed, not unreasonably, that an American university would be full of Americans), I was left with a sinister impression. This isn’t because I am a right-wing Catholic, as many students reported the same thing. I was met with a fierce glare and a half-answer when I queried how could holding a referendum on an issue possibly be democratic within a nation state, when the government will simply rehold the referendum until a pro-European vote is cast.

   Incidentally, my students were disgusted with the squat, modern altar and re-ordering that had been done to Strasbourg Cathedral. I tried to explain Vatican II and its aftermath impartially . . .

   There is also an MEP named Robert Goebbels, though he’s Belgian and no relation to the Nazi . . .

8. 8 oldtimer Jan 17th, 2007 at 6:05 pm

   And last I heard (which is admittedly a long time ago) there were 2 Hapsburgs: father & son.

9. 9 Anonymous Jan 17th, 2007 at 7:48 pm

   pedantic_prof,

   The post said “…last true King of France before the Revolution, …”

   Cheers,

   Mark

10. 10 Tobias Petrus Jan 17th, 2007 at 8:23 pm

    Anonymous, the post was edited to the current one, in order to take into account Pedantic Prof’s note.

11. 11 Anonymous Jan 17th, 2007 at 8:58 pm

    I will be in Manhattan the first weekend of March 2007 — does anyone know where I could attend a FSSP or Latin Rite Mass on Sunday? (Not SSPX, please.)

    My preference is for the Tridentine Rite, but I’ll settle for the Novus Ordo in Latin if that’s not possible.

    Thank you!

12. 12 Iacobus Jan 17th, 2007 at 9:21 pm

    St. Agnes is the place.

13. 13 Anonymous Jan 18th, 2007 at 4:42 am

    oh WOW! St Agnes’s is DIRECTLY behind the apartment of the friend who offered me crash space! I kid you not! Parish is 143 E 43rd St, and I’ll be on 44th street.

    God is good =)

    Thank you, Iacobus.

14. 14 Anonymous Jan 18th, 2007 at 7:05 am

    On the subject of Louis XVI, this year marks the bicentenary of the death of abbe Edgeworth de Firmont, the Irish priest who accompanied Louis XVI to the guillotine. According to a note on their website:

    http://www.latinmassireland.org/newshappenings/abbe_edgeworth.html

    …there are commemorative events planned to mark the event in Ireland, France and Latvia (where the abbe was laid to rest)

15. 15 Tobias Petrus Jan 18th, 2007 at 10:16 am

    Anonymous the Last, you didn’t get the entire address up. At the end of a line, you need to hit enter in order to guarantee that the whole thing appears. Also, for all the anonymous, please adopt at least a pseudonym, so we don’t have to refer back to you as the “5th to last anonymous,” etc. Thanks.

16. 16 pseudo-anonymous Jan 18th, 2007 at 11:48 am

    apologies tobias

    http://www.latinmassireland.org/
    newshappenings/abbe_edgeworth.html

17. 17 Tobias Petrus Jan 18th, 2007 at 12:18 pm

    No apologies necessary. Looks interesting.

18. 18 Stuart Chessman Jan 19th, 2007 at 10:18 pm

    wonderful! And at one of the most beautiful churches in New York!

    I only wish someone would communicate about this kind of event in advance. I cannot make it this Saturday. Perhaps one of the organizers can get in touch as to whatever their future plans may be..

19. 19 SJH Jan 20th, 2007 at 10:37 am

    Future plans: they have Latin Masses there every Saturday.

    Last year there was at least one other Sung Requiem, for someone local, I believe, not somone famous.

    There are also non-Sunday Traditional Latin Masses at St. Agnes on the last Monday of the month at 6:15PM, which are sometimes sung.

20. 20 latinmass1983 Jan 20th, 2007 at 6:10 pm

    Hello everyone.

    The Sung Requiem Mass for King Louis XVI is usually done every year. In fact, it used to be a Solemn Requiem Mass. This year they were not going to do it. When it was finally decided to have it, there was not enough time to prepare everything for a Solemn Requiem Mass.

    Also, at the last minute, the priest who was going to do it had a minor accident and could not make it. So, we had to have another Celebrant who had not done a Sung Mass in a long time. In the end though, it went better than expected, taking into consideration how days before the Mass many things changed.

    Hopefully, next year it will be better and it might be a Solemn Mass. We will try to work on that with time.

    And, just as SJH said, we usually have a Traditiona Low Mass (sometimes a regular Sung Mass) on Saturdays at 1pm.

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