Comments on: Vacate et Videte http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/ Unity in charity, diversity in truth Sat, 06 Sep 2008 19:48:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Lucia http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3898 Lucia Sun, 27 Aug 2006 04:03:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3898 The monks are of the Abbey of Our Lady of the Genesee. Do a google search for "Abbey of the Genesee" and it should come up. They are in Piffard, NY, just 5 minutes from Geneseo and 30-40 from Rochester. The monks are of the Abbey of Our Lady of the Genesee. Do a google search for “Abbey of the Genesee” and it should come up. They are in Piffard, NY, just 5 minutes from Geneseo and 30-40 from Rochester.

]]> By: Iosephus http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3899 Iosephus Thu, 24 Aug 2006 00:58:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3899 I mentioned it because I was so tickled by the National Catholic Reporter, in its run down of papabile before the conclave, mentioned as one of the primary recommendations of Dionigi Cardinal Tettamanzi his resemblance, in rolly-polly stature, to Blessed John XXIII. I think that this was serious: the fat, plumpy look would recommend him to the crowds and make people think, I guess, that he was a jolly, liberal-hearted man. I mentioned it because I was so tickled by the National Catholic Reporter, in its run down of papabile before the conclave, mentioned as one of the primary recommendations of Dionigi Cardinal Tettamanzi his resemblance, in rolly-polly stature, to Blessed John XXIII. I think that this was serious: the fat, plumpy look would recommend him to the crowds and make people think, I guess, that he was a jolly, liberal-hearted man.

]]> By: Tobias Petrus http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3900 Tobias Petrus Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:24:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3900 Concerning Bl. John XXIII's plumpness, I read in a biography of him that he used to belittle himself to his doctors for it. He tried to keep it in check, but (if I remember correctly) some disorder prevented him from losing much weight. <BR/><BR/>Once again, I am not trying to "correct" anyone by writing this. Concerning Bl. John XXIII’s plumpness, I read in a biography of him that he used to belittle himself to his doctors for it. He tried to keep it in check, but (if I remember correctly) some disorder prevented him from losing much weight.

Once again, I am not trying to “correct” anyone by writing this.

]]> By: Tobias Petrus http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3901 Tobias Petrus Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:18:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3901 No problem. No problem.

]]> By: johnboy316 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3902 johnboy316 Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:18:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3902 Thanks, but I forgot he was Blessed.<BR/><BR/>Plus I'm not off for vacation but at work. Sorry for the speedy posts..... Thanks, but I forgot he was Blessed.

Plus I’m not off for vacation but at work. Sorry for the speedy posts…..

]]> By: Tobias Petrus http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3903 Tobias Petrus Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:17:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3903 Not that I fault anyone in this discussion. Not that I fault anyone in this discussion.

]]> By: johnboy316 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3904 johnboy316 Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:16:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3904 Ok, that's enough rattling up folks. Ok, that’s enough rattling up folks.

]]> By: Tobias Petrus http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3905 Tobias Petrus Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:16:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3905 Speaking of John XXIII, he is a Beatus now. So Blessed John XXIII. Not that we always refer to Pius X as St. Pius X, but I think we should. The failure of traditionalists to refer to Blessed John XXIII and St. Josemaria Escriva with their due titles is something I've been following. Speaking of John XXIII, he is a Beatus now. So Blessed John XXIII. Not that we always refer to Pius X as St. Pius X, but I think we should. The failure of traditionalists to refer to Blessed John XXIII and St. Josemaria Escriva with their due titles is something I’ve been following.

]]> By: johnboy316 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3906 johnboy316 Wed, 23 Aug 2006 23:14:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3906 <I>In time, he learned to know the power of the Dark Side of the Force . . . and he became an Evil Traditionalist</I>--Iosephus<BR/><BR/>Actually, I do not mind traditionalism. I like the Latin Mass in many respects. It would be appropriate for me to say that I love it.<BR/><BR/>In any case, I just don't think the Novus Ordo is EVIL... In time, he learned to know the power of the Dark Side of the Force . . . and he became an Evil Traditionalist–Iosephus

Actually, I do not mind traditionalism. I like the Latin Mass in many respects. It would be appropriate for me to say that I love it.

In any case, I just don’t think the Novus Ordo is EVIL…

]]> By: johnboy316 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3907 johnboy316 Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:11:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3907 privy (noun) --> One of the parties having an interest in the same matter. privy (noun) –> One of the parties having an interest in the same matter.

]]> By: johnboy316 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3908 johnboy316 Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:10:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3908 ACtually, no. Ambrosius was trying to seduce me when I was at COrnell ;).<BR/><BR/>I think he just found others like himself... ACtually, no. Ambrosius was trying to seduce me when I was at COrnell ;).

I think he just found others like himself…

]]> By: Iosephus http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3909 Iosephus Wed, 23 Aug 2006 22:00:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3909 I don't know how my "privy", whatever that means, could condemn the popes since John XXIII, but if you haven't noticed by now, all of the writers for this blog have serious questions about the prudential choices of the pontiffs since that great rolly-polly man (he was much revered by liberals for this trait, you know) was <I>inspired</I> to call the Council which nearly sunk the Barque of Peter.<BR/><BR/>Even your beloved Ambrosius feels this way, John Boy, painful as that may be for you. You see, after you left Cornell, there was no one from the New Order left to protect him, and he fell into our cruel clutches. Leveling our malign gaze upon him, we seduced his soul with the sweet whisperings of Latin Rosaries and Latin Masses. In time, he learned to know the power of the Dark Side of the Force . . . and he became an Evil Traditionalist! I don’t know how my “privy”, whatever that means, could condemn the popes since John XXIII, but if you haven’t noticed by now, all of the writers for this blog have serious questions about the prudential choices of the pontiffs since that great rolly-polly man (he was much revered by liberals for this trait, you know) was inspired to call the Council which nearly sunk the Barque of Peter.

Even your beloved Ambrosius feels this way, John Boy, painful as that may be for you. You see, after you left Cornell, there was no one from the New Order left to protect him, and he fell into our cruel clutches. Leveling our malign gaze upon him, we seduced his soul with the sweet whisperings of Latin Rosaries and Latin Masses. In time, he learned to know the power of the Dark Side of the Force . . . and he became an Evil Traditionalist!

]]> By: johnboy316 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3910 johnboy316 Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:43:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3910 And logically, your "privy" must condemn the Popes since John XXIII. And logically, your “privy” must condemn the Popes since John XXIII.

]]> By: johnboy316 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3911 johnboy316 Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:41:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3911 <I>rescuing lost souls like yours, ill, almost beyond help, with the Nervous Disorder</I>--Iosephus<BR/><BR/>If that came from Ambrosius, it'd be pretty surprising... rescuing lost souls like yours, ill, almost beyond help, with the Nervous Disorder–Iosephus

If that came from Ambrosius, it’d be pretty surprising…

]]> By: Iosephus http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3912 Iosephus Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:35:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3912 John Boy, the only thing <I>too</I> is your too rich commentary.<BR/><BR/>You should know, we've always said our Rosaries with the especial intention of rescuing lost souls like yours, ill, almost beyond help, with the Nervous Disorder.<BR/><BR/>But no case is beyond the power of Our Lady. We shall prayer with all the more fervor having been privy on this blog to so many of your thoughts. John Boy, the only thing too is your too rich commentary.

You should know, we’ve always said our Rosaries with the especial intention of rescuing lost souls like yours, ill, almost beyond help, with the Nervous Disorder.

But no case is beyond the power of Our Lady. We shall prayer with all the more fervor having been privy on this blog to so many of your thoughts.

]]> By: johnboy316 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3913 johnboy316 Wed, 23 Aug 2006 21:28:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3913 No offense Ambrosius. Have you not found it odd I've been rather critical of your Society?<BR/><BR/>It is too right leaning. This is ironic, as I met Ambrosius via the nonsense at Cornell...because of the too-left leaning you know who...<BR/><BR/>Sorry. Perhaps maybe She sent me to this blog through your Rosaries ;). No offense Ambrosius. Have you not found it odd I’ve been rather critical of your Society?

It is too right leaning. This is ironic, as I met Ambrosius via the nonsense at Cornell…because of the too-left leaning you know who…

Sorry. Perhaps maybe She sent me to this blog through your Rosaries ;).

]]> By: Iosephus http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3914 Iosephus Wed, 23 Aug 2006 19:24:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3914 I believe that story is of St. Alphonsus Liguori, not St. Robert Bellarmine. St. Alphonsus kept a horarium and placed great importance in it and the Rule of his order in general, whereas Bellarmine was a Jesuit and so had no community life.<BR/><BR/>Lucia, what Benedictine monks do you know who rise at 2:25AM for Vigils? I've never heard of that. Carthusians, maybe, but not Benedictines.<BR/><BR/>LofM, the <B>Society</B> came into existence for a number of reasons, I suppose, and perhaps even before the Mass of All Ages and All Times and All Places (because it's also the best one out there), it was really the Rosary, each weekday night, which caused us to form a society.<BR/><BR/>But drinking and carousing soon followed on the heels of the Rosary, as it's wont to do, according to the rhyme of Hilaire Belloc: "Wherever the Catholic sun doth shine, there's always laughter and good red wine . . . ." I believe that story is of St. Alphonsus Liguori, not St. Robert Bellarmine. St. Alphonsus kept a horarium and placed great importance in it and the Rule of his order in general, whereas Bellarmine was a Jesuit and so had no community life.

Lucia, what Benedictine monks do you know who rise at 2:25AM for Vigils? I’ve never heard of that. Carthusians, maybe, but not Benedictines.

LofM, the Society came into existence for a number of reasons, I suppose, and perhaps even before the Mass of All Ages and All Times and All Places (because it’s also the best one out there), it was really the Rosary, each weekday night, which caused us to form a society.

But drinking and carousing soon followed on the heels of the Rosary, as it’s wont to do, according to the rhyme of Hilaire Belloc: “Wherever the Catholic sun doth shine, there’s always laughter and good red wine . . . .”

]]> By: johnboy316 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3915 johnboy316 Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:52:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3915 Hi good friends!<BR/><BR/>It was a kid and he was playing hopscotch (spelling?). Hi good friends!

It was a kid and he was playing hopscotch (spelling?).

]]> By: Tobias Petrus http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3916 Tobias Petrus Wed, 23 Aug 2006 18:52:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3916 St. Francis de Sales (one of the saints for whom I chose my Confirmation name) reported a legend about St. John the Evangelist. A Christian disciple discovered him sitting on a rock by the side of the road, petting a partridge. The uppity disciple said something along the lines of, "Don't you have something better to do?" St. John, if I recall, replied, "If it's not forbidden, it is allowed. It does no harm, and brings me some solace." I hope I got that right. St. Francis de Sales (one of the saints for whom I chose my Confirmation name) reported a legend about St. John the Evangelist. A Christian disciple discovered him sitting on a rock by the side of the road, petting a partridge. The uppity disciple said something along the lines of, “Don’t you have something better to do?” St. John, if I recall, replied, “If it’s not forbidden, it is allowed. It does no harm, and brings me some solace.” I hope I got that right.

]]> By: Joe Six Pack http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3917 Joe Six Pack Wed, 23 Aug 2006 16:38:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/08/vacate-et-videte/#comment-3917 I don't remember the saint's name (could it have been Cardinal Bellarmine?), anyway, one day while he was shooting a game of pool, one of his novices asked him what he would do if he knew the end of the World was in 30 minutes. <BR/><BR/>The saint continued his shot, and said, "I'd finish this game of pool."<BR/><BR/>He was doing exactly what he was suppose to be doing at the right time of the day dedicated to recreation, and his soul was prepared through frequent confessions and fervent communions.<BR/><BR/>It's one of my old FSSP pastor's favorite stories about staying in the state of grace and doing what God intends you to be doing. I don’t remember the saint’s name (could it have been Cardinal Bellarmine?), anyway, one day while he was shooting a game of pool, one of his novices asked him what he would do if he knew the end of the World was in 30 minutes.

The saint continued his shot, and said, “I’d finish this game of pool.”

He was doing exactly what he was suppose to be doing at the right time of the day dedicated to recreation, and his soul was prepared through frequent confessions and fervent communions.

It’s one of my old FSSP pastor’s favorite stories about staying in the state of grace and doing what God intends you to be doing.

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