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	<title>Comments on: Popes and Patrons through Modern Glass</title>
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		<title>By: Iosephus</title>
		<link>http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/03/popes-and-patrons-through-modern-glass/#comment-1813</link>
		<dc:creator>Iosephus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 07:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, that's funny, I like that story about the &lt;I&gt;Rerum Novarum&lt;/I&gt; guy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, that&#8217;s funny, I like that story about the <i>Rerum Novarum</i> guy.</p>
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		<title>By: fbc</title>
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		<dc:creator>fbc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 03:47:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Postscript:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;On the other hand, it just occurred to me that I had almost exactly the same reaction once I finally read "Ecclesia Dei."&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;After several years of hearing fellow Trads gush over that document and how JPII guaranteed our right to the Traditional Latin Mass, I was non-plussed at the tepidity of the late pontiff's words there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Postscript:</p>
<p>On the other hand, it just occurred to me that I had almost exactly the same reaction once I finally read &#8220;Ecclesia Dei.&#8221;</p>
<p>After several years of hearing fellow Trads gush over that document and how JPII guaranteed our right to the Traditional Latin Mass, I was non-plussed at the tepidity of the late pontiff&#8217;s words there.</p>
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		<title>By: fbc</title>
		<link>http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/03/popes-and-patrons-through-modern-glass/#comment-1815</link>
		<dc:creator>fbc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Apr 2006 03:42:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's funny - one of my good friends is an ardent ideologue of the Left (and a Catholic).&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Each year his parish's Social Justice Committee made a "Rerum Novarum" award to some suitably lefty local. However, he recently confided to me that after all these years, he'd stopped to read the actual encyclical, and "you know what? It wasn't all that great."&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Sometimes you just gotta laugh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s funny - one of my good friends is an ardent ideologue of the Left (and a Catholic).</p>
<p>Each year his parish&#8217;s Social Justice Committee made a &#8220;Rerum Novarum&#8221; award to some suitably lefty local. However, he recently confided to me that after all these years, he&#8217;d stopped to read the actual encyclical, and &#8220;you know what? It wasn&#8217;t all that great.&#8221;</p>
<p>Sometimes you just gotta laugh.</p>
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		<title>By: Iosephus</title>
		<link>http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/03/popes-and-patrons-through-modern-glass/#comment-1816</link>
		<dc:creator>Iosephus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Mar 2006 07:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Talking with Iacobus tonight, I was reminded that I had wanted to comment here . . .&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I am offended, on behalf of my hero, Leo XIII, that he, the last pontiff of noble blood, should today be known as the "Patron of Working Men."  I spit in disgust.  If any of these moronic liberals had ever bothered to read &lt;I&gt;Rerum Novarum&lt;/I&gt;, I can't see how they could be in such hysterics over it.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Basically, it says that the wealthy should treat the poor with kindness and pay them enough to raise Catholic families and give them enough holidays to observe all the holy-days of the Church.  The poor and laboring classes, in turn, should know their place, treat the ruling classes with respect, not revolt, etc.  Okay, so I exaggerate a little, but &lt;I&gt;Rerum Novarum&lt;/I&gt; is far from being the &lt;I&gt;Magna Carta&lt;/I&gt; of the peace and social justice movement, as the encyclical is known today.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;All of which leaves aside the more important point which is that Leo wrote so many glorious encyclicals (in glorious Latin prose) which these stain glass boneheads would never deign to touch.  If they knew of anything else he wrote, they would be so disgusted that they would give up &lt;I&gt;Rerum Novarum&lt;/I&gt; in a sort of guilt by association.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Which is why I can only hope that his encyclicals may be more widely read so that they stop swooning over a single encyclical only of his, which they have clearly misuderstood.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Talking with Iacobus tonight, I was reminded that I had wanted to comment here . . .</p>
<p>I am offended, on behalf of my hero, Leo XIII, that he, the last pontiff of noble blood, should today be known as the &#8220;Patron of Working Men.&#8221;  I spit in disgust.  If any of these moronic liberals had ever bothered to read <i>Rerum Novarum</i>, I can&#8217;t see how they could be in such hysterics over it.</p>
<p>Basically, it says that the wealthy should treat the poor with kindness and pay them enough to raise Catholic families and give them enough holidays to observe all the holy-days of the Church.  The poor and laboring classes, in turn, should know their place, treat the ruling classes with respect, not revolt, etc.  Okay, so I exaggerate a little, but <i>Rerum Novarum</i> is far from being the <i>Magna Carta</i> of the peace and social justice movement, as the encyclical is known today.</p>
<p>All of which leaves aside the more important point which is that Leo wrote so many glorious encyclicals (in glorious Latin prose) which these stain glass boneheads would never deign to touch.  If they knew of anything else he wrote, they would be so disgusted that they would give up <i>Rerum Novarum</i> in a sort of guilt by association.</p>
<p>Which is why I can only hope that his encyclicals may be more widely read so that they stop swooning over a single encyclical only of his, which they have clearly misuderstood.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Mar 2006 03:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"De gustibus non est disputandum"&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I learned it as "De gustibus non disputandum est"&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Is there really that much of a difference between "church" Latin and Vergil's Latin?  Sounds like an interesting topic for further comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;De gustibus non est disputandum&#8221;</p>
<p>I learned it as &#8220;De gustibus non disputandum est&#8221;</p>
<p>Is there really that much of a difference between &#8220;church&#8221; Latin and Vergil&#8217;s Latin?  Sounds like an interesting topic for further comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>De gustibus non est disputandum.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>De gustibus non est disputandum.</p>
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		<title>By: Pseudo-Thomas</title>
		<link>http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/03/popes-and-patrons-through-modern-glass/#comment-1819</link>
		<dc:creator>Pseudo-Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JSP,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Because bad translation and bad artwork seem to go hand-in-hand.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JSP,</p>
<p>Because bad translation and bad artwork seem to go hand-in-hand.</p>
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		<title>By: Joe Six Pack</title>
		<link>http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/03/popes-and-patrons-through-modern-glass/#comment-1820</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Six Pack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why do those novus ordo missalettes have that hideous art on the cover?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why do those novus ordo missalettes have that hideous art on the cover?</p>
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		<title>By: Caeremonarius</title>
		<link>http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/03/popes-and-patrons-through-modern-glass/#comment-1821</link>
		<dc:creator>Caeremonarius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;A-visiting this Sunday in the realm of His Most Recent Eminence Sean Cardinal Patrick O'Malley ....&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;The cardinal's name and title are properly rendered, "Sean Patrick Cardinal O'Malley." The cardinatial title should immediately precede the surname. See, for example,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/bomalley.html&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;and every other cardinal listed in that site.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>A-visiting this Sunday in the realm of His Most Recent Eminence Sean Cardinal Patrick O&#8217;Malley &#8230;.</i></p>
<p>The cardinal&#8217;s name and title are properly rendered, &#8220;Sean Patrick Cardinal O&#8217;Malley.&#8221; The cardinatial title should immediately precede the surname. See, for example,</p>
<p><a href="http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/bomalley.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/bomalley.html</a></p>
<p>and every other cardinal listed in that site.</p>
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		<title>By: G. Thomas Fitzpatrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>G. Thomas Fitzpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to the North Shore, home turf to Recta Ratio, as well as Dom Bettinelli.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the North Shore, home turf to Recta Ratio, as well as Dom Bettinelli.</p>
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		<title>By: Ambrosius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ambrosius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are still new churches with nice stained glass. For instance:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;A HREF="http://www.walsingham-church.org/photos133_small.jpg" REL="nofollow"&gt;click here&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;See more of the remarkably nice pictures of this brand-new church &lt;A HREF="http://www.walsingham-church.org/photos.htm" REL="nofollow"&gt;here&lt;/A&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are still new churches with nice stained glass. For instance:<br /><a HREF="http://www.walsingham-church.org/photos133_small.jpg" REL="nofollow">click here</a></p>
<p>See more of the remarkably nice pictures of this brand-new church <a HREF="http://www.walsingham-church.org/photos.htm" REL="nofollow">here</a></p>
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		<title>By: Pseudo-Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pseudo-Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Mar 2006 14:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is generally not impossible to find a good Catholic architect these days.  For example, Duncan Stroik at Notre Dame has designed some beautiful, traditional Churches, and publishes a periodical called Sacred Architecture, "[a] magazine devoted exclusively to issues of church architecture from an orthodox Catholic perspective."  www.sacredarchitecture.org.  The availability of such proficient men is exactly why I find such monstrosities as the Cathedral in L.A. so inexcusable.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;However, I do get the impression that finding good stained-glass artists these days is fairly near impossible.  From an economic standpoint, it seems that demand has all but dried up, stifling supply.  The craft is unknown because, frankly, it is generally unused.  Terribly, terribly sad.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Of course, I'm no expert on such things.  This is just what I have heard from those who know more than me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is generally not impossible to find a good Catholic architect these days.  For example, Duncan Stroik at Notre Dame has designed some beautiful, traditional Churches, and publishes a periodical called Sacred Architecture, &#8220;[a] magazine devoted exclusively to issues of church architecture from an orthodox Catholic perspective.&#8221;  <a href="http://www.sacredarchitecture.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.sacredarchitecture.org</a>.  The availability of such proficient men is exactly why I find such monstrosities as the Cathedral in L.A. so inexcusable.</p>
<p>However, I do get the impression that finding good stained-glass artists these days is fairly near impossible.  From an economic standpoint, it seems that demand has all but dried up, stifling supply.  The craft is unknown because, frankly, it is generally unused.  Terribly, terribly sad.</p>
<p>Of course, I&#8217;m no expert on such things.  This is just what I have heard from those who know more than me.</p>
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