Comments on: Pèlerinage de Chartres http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/ Unity in charity, diversity in truth Sat, 30 Aug 2008 11:41:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: Ambrosius http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1952 Ambrosius Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:59:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1952 Steve,<BR/><BR/>Try emailing us at <A HREF="cornellcatholiccircle@gmail.com" REL="nofollow">cornellcatholiccircle@gmail.com</A> Steve,

Try emailing us at cornellcatholiccircle@gmail.com

]]> By: Steve http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1953 Steve Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:47:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1953 A second comment: I believe I am leaving these comments on a site set up by the CSfaGT at which I arrived searching for info about the pilgrimage from Notre Dame de Paris to Chartres. In the course of trying to leave that message, I was cajoled into setting up a site at blogspot. The address of that is http://vivalatin.blogspot.com. At present, I assume this site is an unadorned template, but perhaps I can receive infor there if anyone would care to try to supply it. Finally, God bless you making that pilgrimage from Lourdes to Compostella. I wish I could go with you. A second comment: I believe I am leaving these comments on a site set up by the CSfaGT at which I arrived searching for info about the pilgrimage from Notre Dame de Paris to Chartres. In the course of trying to leave that message, I was cajoled into setting up a site at blogspot. The address of that is http://vivalatin.blogspot.com. At present, I assume this site is an unadorned template, but perhaps I can receive infor there if anyone would care to try to supply it. Finally, God bless you making that pilgrimage from Lourdes to Compostella. I wish I could go with you.

]]> By: Steve http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1954 Steve Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:40:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1954 I would be happy if someone would confirm for me the date of the Notre-Dame-de-Paris-Chartres pilgrimage. Does it begin on June 1 at the porch of Notre Dame de Paris? Can I just show up there and walk along? Is there some place to get information about what preparations I should make to join the pilgrimage? Thanks. I would be happy if someone would confirm for me the date of the Notre-Dame-de-Paris-Chartres pilgrimage. Does it begin on June 1 at the porch of Notre Dame de Paris? Can I just show up there and walk along? Is there some place to get information about what preparations I should make to join the pilgrimage? Thanks.

]]> By: Catharina http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1955 Catharina Tue, 28 Mar 2006 17:01:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1955 [Anonymous said...<BR/>Do any of the Cornellians currently resident in Oxford know of plans for an Oxonian group?] <BR/><BR/>Dear Anonymous, <BR/><BR/>I am terribly sorry for not having been able to reply to your inquiry earlier. I have just got back from Corea. I know that several people in The Traditional Latin Mass group here in Oxford are planning to go to the pilgrimage. If you are interested, please contact me (catherine.bahg@gmail.com); more details then! [Anonymous said...
Do any of the Cornellians currently resident in Oxford know of plans for an Oxonian group?]

Dear Anonymous,

I am terribly sorry for not having been able to reply to your inquiry earlier. I have just got back from Corea. I know that several people in The Traditional Latin Mass group here in Oxford are planning to go to the pilgrimage. If you are interested, please contact me (catherine.bahg@gmail.com); more details then!

]]> By: "al-Salam" http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1956 "al-Salam" Fri, 24 Mar 2006 06:57:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1956 Chartres is the most boring city of France ! What on earth are you going to do in this hole ?? The cathedral is like any other cathedral in France. Go to Paris, il you want to see a Cathedral and enjoy Paris !! Chartres is the most boring city of France ! What on earth are you going to do in this hole ?? The cathedral is like any other cathedral in France. Go to Paris, il you want to see a Cathedral and enjoy Paris !!

]]> By: Anonymous http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1957 Anonymous Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:24:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1957 Do any of the Cornellians currently resident in Oxford know of plans for an Oxonian group? Do any of the Cornellians currently resident in Oxford know of plans for an Oxonian group?

]]> By: Iosephus http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1958 Iosephus Sun, 05 Mar 2006 05:15:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1958 It sounds like St. Eugene, given a tight time budget and its location, is the way to go. Thank you, Clara altera, for giving us such a detailed review of the different options! It sounds like St. Eugene, given a tight time budget and its location, is the way to go. Thank you, Clara altera, for giving us such a detailed review of the different options!

]]> By: Clara Altera http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1959 Clara Altera Sun, 05 Mar 2006 04:10:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1959 Care Josephe,<BR/><BR/>Of the parishes in Yvelines, I've only been to Notre Dame des Armees in Versailles. It's not a particularly beautiful parish, but the liturgy is solid. And, Versailles has a special "tradi" character all its own (primarily because it was a sort of harbor for Catholics who fled Paris during the Revolution). As such, les Versaillais tend to be hard-core in the way that I think of as more characteristically (Anglo-)American Trad: women tend to be quite beskirted (generaly in long plaid skirts for some reason?), etc. Parisians think of them as a bit stuck-up, but I've heard lots of people say that if you want to raise a good Catholic family, Versailles is the place to go. So, it's interesting for that, and there tend to be a lot of people about our age at Mass, so it would be easy to meet people. <BR/><BR/>A lot of people from St. Eugene-Ste. Cecile went to Saint Louis de Port-Marly last year for Holy Thursday (St.E-Ste.C is biritual, so they split up Holy Week and Jeudi Saint was N.O. last year), but I've never been there (I went Eastern for the day - huge mistake).<BR/><BR/>As for Paris itself, I think St. Eugene-Ste. Cecile is definitely the cream of the crop, both liturgically and musically (but I sang there, so maybe I'm partial). The other options are Ste. Odile (but that's way the heck out in the 18eme and super-ugly), Notre Dame du Lys (15eme - not very pretty, but it's a nice congregation and their Wednesday night Mass for Students and Young Professionals is very well attended. Once a month it is even said by the Pere de Blignieres from the Societe de St. Vincent-Ferrer in the Traditional Dominican Rite, which is really cool). Other than that, there's the Centre St. Paul in the 2nd (I'm not sure if it's new or something, but I didn't know about it when I lived there) and of course, the SSPX church in Paris is the very beautiful St. Nicolas du Chardonnet in the 5eme. I personally wouldn't go to Mass there, but it is the only place in Paris where they have trad. vespers on Sunday.<BR/><BR/>I hope this helps!<BR/><BR/>Pax vobiscum,<BR/>Clara Altera Care Josephe,

Of the parishes in Yvelines, I’ve only been to Notre Dame des Armees in Versailles. It’s not a particularly beautiful parish, but the liturgy is solid. And, Versailles has a special “tradi” character all its own (primarily because it was a sort of harbor for Catholics who fled Paris during the Revolution). As such, les Versaillais tend to be hard-core in the way that I think of as more characteristically (Anglo-)American Trad: women tend to be quite beskirted (generaly in long plaid skirts for some reason?), etc. Parisians think of them as a bit stuck-up, but I’ve heard lots of people say that if you want to raise a good Catholic family, Versailles is the place to go. So, it’s interesting for that, and there tend to be a lot of people about our age at Mass, so it would be easy to meet people.

A lot of people from St. Eugene-Ste. Cecile went to Saint Louis de Port-Marly last year for Holy Thursday (St.E-Ste.C is biritual, so they split up Holy Week and Jeudi Saint was N.O. last year), but I’ve never been there (I went Eastern for the day - huge mistake).

As for Paris itself, I think St. Eugene-Ste. Cecile is definitely the cream of the crop, both liturgically and musically (but I sang there, so maybe I’m partial). The other options are Ste. Odile (but that’s way the heck out in the 18eme and super-ugly), Notre Dame du Lys (15eme - not very pretty, but it’s a nice congregation and their Wednesday night Mass for Students and Young Professionals is very well attended. Once a month it is even said by the Pere de Blignieres from the Societe de St. Vincent-Ferrer in the Traditional Dominican Rite, which is really cool). Other than that, there’s the Centre St. Paul in the 2nd (I’m not sure if it’s new or something, but I didn’t know about it when I lived there) and of course, the SSPX church in Paris is the very beautiful St. Nicolas du Chardonnet in the 5eme. I personally wouldn’t go to Mass there, but it is the only place in Paris where they have trad. vespers on Sunday.

I hope this helps!

Pax vobiscum,
Clara Altera

]]> By: Iosephus http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1960 Iosephus Sat, 04 Mar 2006 08:17:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1960 Clara Altera, thank you for sharing this info. Ambrosius and I have both (though at different times) been to Mass at Ste. Cecile. I was at a couple daily Masses and Ambrosius has been to a Sunday High Mass.<BR/><BR/>Another question for you: while last in Paris, I wanted to see either the FSSP or ICKSP which are not in Paris proper, if I remember correctly. Do you think it would be worth the effort to get to one of these, or would it be better just to go to the daily Mass at Ste. Cecile while we are in Paris?<BR/><BR/>I'm thinking of the parishes listed <A HREF="http://www.nd-chretiente.com/messes/departement78.htm" REL="nofollow">here</A>. Clara Altera, thank you for sharing this info. Ambrosius and I have both (though at different times) been to Mass at Ste. Cecile. I was at a couple daily Masses and Ambrosius has been to a Sunday High Mass.

Another question for you: while last in Paris, I wanted to see either the FSSP or ICKSP which are not in Paris proper, if I remember correctly. Do you think it would be worth the effort to get to one of these, or would it be better just to go to the daily Mass at Ste. Cecile while we are in Paris?

I’m thinking of the parishes listed here.

]]> By: Clara Altera http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1961 Clara Altera Fri, 03 Mar 2006 22:24:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1961 I was studying in France, so I went with Bienheureux Jean-Leon le Prevot, which is affiliated with Notre Dame du Lys in Paris-Sud. It was a great chapter, (as is the chapter from my parish there, Chapitre Ste. Cecile). However, the mediations are a pretty integral part of the experience and they were all in French, which is something to keep in mind depending on your levels of fluency. <BR/><BR/>I guess I would recommend that you go with a non-French chapter overall. They're provided with certain amenities that the local chapters lack (large tents, logistical help, etc.). I was studying in France, so I went with Bienheureux Jean-Leon le Prevot, which is affiliated with Notre Dame du Lys in Paris-Sud. It was a great chapter, (as is the chapter from my parish there, Chapitre Ste. Cecile). However, the mediations are a pretty integral part of the experience and they were all in French, which is something to keep in mind depending on your levels of fluency.

I guess I would recommend that you go with a non-French chapter overall. They’re provided with certain amenities that the local chapters lack (large tents, logistical help, etc.).

]]> By: Iosephus http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1962 Iosephus Fri, 03 Mar 2006 18:49:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1962 Clara altera, with which chapter did you go? At this point, we're trying to find one. Fr. Demet's looks like a good possibility because now we sorta know him from Rorate Coeli and we ourselves go to an FSSP parish. Clara altera, with which chapter did you go? At this point, we’re trying to find one. Fr. Demet’s looks like a good possibility because now we sorta know him from Rorate Coeli and we ourselves go to an FSSP parish.

]]> By: Altera Clara http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1963 Altera Clara Fri, 03 Mar 2006 14:03:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1963 May I ask which chapter you all intend to go with? As far as I know, there are two American chapters going this year, and I've heard very good things about the Georgia-based chapter led by Fr. Demets (a French FSSP priest). The English chapter is always large and spirited, which is nice. And, the foreign chapters generally get preference for seating in the Chartres Cathedral, which is a pretty decent perk. On the other hand, the French have the best pilgrim-ing music... (Chartres sonne! Chartres t'appelle! Gloire, honneur au Christ-Roi!)<BR/><BR/>Also, one word of advice from a veteran: wear your boots around A LOT before you go. I made the mistake of wearing slightly-too-small footgear last year and I had nine (9!) blisters by the first "halte"! :) May I ask which chapter you all intend to go with? As far as I know, there are two American chapters going this year, and I’ve heard very good things about the Georgia-based chapter led by Fr. Demets (a French FSSP priest). The English chapter is always large and spirited, which is nice. And, the foreign chapters generally get preference for seating in the Chartres Cathedral, which is a pretty decent perk. On the other hand, the French have the best pilgrim-ing music… (Chartres sonne! Chartres t’appelle! Gloire, honneur au Christ-Roi!)

Also, one word of advice from a veteran: wear your boots around A LOT before you go. I made the mistake of wearing slightly-too-small footgear last year and I had nine (9!) blisters by the first “halte”! :)

]]> By: Iosephus http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1964 Iosephus Thu, 02 Mar 2006 09:23:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1964 This is very cool. I don't think that there are many more details to the thing than just getting oneself there. At least that's the approach we're taking! As for the rest, I'll let the Vice President (Iacobus) worry about it.<BR/><BR/>We do need to figure out a brigade to join. As we learned on the Pilgrimage for Restoration last fall, the brigades are a very important part of a good pilgrimage. This is very cool. I don’t think that there are many more details to the thing than just getting oneself there. At least that’s the approach we’re taking! As for the rest, I’ll let the Vice President (Iacobus) worry about it.

We do need to figure out a brigade to join. As we learned on the Pilgrimage for Restoration last fall, the brigades are a very important part of a good pilgrimage.

]]> By: RP http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1965 RP Thu, 02 Mar 2006 05:06:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1965 Iosephus, my dear husband says I may look into going on the pilgrimage, and my daugher is really excited about it and wants to go too! Thanks for encouraging me to think about it. Now, I just need to learn about the details. :) Iosephus, my dear husband says I may look into going on the pilgrimage, and my daugher is really excited about it and wants to go too! Thanks for encouraging me to think about it. Now, I just need to learn about the details. :)

]]> By: Iosephus http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1966 Iosephus Tue, 28 Feb 2006 19:36:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1966 RP, seriously, you should think about coming.<BR/><BR/>This was part of the reason we put up this post, to let people know we're going, hopefully encourage some interest, and then hopefully meet some of our readers during the pilgrimage.<BR/><BR/>Daniel, that's very cool about the pilgrimage your group is undertaking. I believe that Ambrosius has his eyes set on Compostella as well, but he himself can write more about that later. RP, seriously, you should think about coming.

This was part of the reason we put up this post, to let people know we’re going, hopefully encourage some interest, and then hopefully meet some of our readers during the pilgrimage.

Daniel, that’s very cool about the pilgrimage your group is undertaking. I believe that Ambrosius has his eyes set on Compostella as well, but he himself can write more about that later.

]]> By: Daniel Vitz http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1967 Daniel Vitz Tue, 28 Feb 2006 19:05:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1967 That should be a wonderful experience, guys. FYI, I and a few other young guys are also doing a pilgrimage to Santiago de Compostela this summer--starting in Lourdes and ending 33 days later in Santiago on the Feast of St. James. (July 25). Other guys who are serious about their Faith are welcome to come along, so if you know anyone who'd be interested in coming along, just put them in touch with me... That should be a wonderful experience, guys. FYI, I and a few other young guys are also doing a pilgrimage to Santiago de Compostela this summer–starting in Lourdes and ending 33 days later in Santiago on the Feast of St. James. (July 25). Other guys who are serious about their Faith are welcome to come along, so if you know anyone who’d be interested in coming along, just put them in touch with me…

]]> By: RP http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1968 RP Tue, 28 Feb 2006 19:02:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1968 Yes, I am an out-of-practice francophile who would enjoy that very much! <BR/><BR/>I know people who have made this pilgrimage several times and say that it is very worthwhile. Yes, I am an out-of-practice francophile who would enjoy that very much!

I know people who have made this pilgrimage several times and say that it is very worthwhile.

]]> By: Iosephus http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1969 Iosephus Tue, 28 Feb 2006 18:30:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1969 RP, you should be coming with us! RP, you should be coming with us!

]]> By: RP http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1970 RP Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:42:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1970 At the very top, it says, "Our Lady of Christendom organizes each year the pilgrimage of Our Lady of Paris to Our Lady of Chartres: three days to live and build the Christendom of the third millenium." At the very top, it says, “Our Lady of Christendom organizes each year the pilgrimage of Our Lady of Paris to Our Lady of Chartres: three days to live and build the Christendom of the third millenium.”

]]> By: RP http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1971 RP Tue, 28 Feb 2006 16:37:00 +0000 http://www.cornellsociety.org/2006/02/pelerinage-de-chartres/#comment-1971 And then under that, "Family, hearth of charity and cradle of Christianity." And then under that, “Family, hearth of charity and cradle of Christianity.”

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