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	<title>Comments on: Revolution and Counter-Revolution: Catholics vs. Cornell Catholic Community</title>
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		<title>By: John</title>
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		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 21:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: analisa</title>
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		<dc:creator>analisa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 04:32:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Michaela0519</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michaela0519</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Aug 2006 23:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello!  My posting deals not so much with the history of the Cornell Society for a Good Time, but rather with the whereabouts of one of the more orthodox chaplains who had left Cornell University.  I thought that the Cornell SGT members would appreciate an update, especially when it reminds us that there are no coincidences.&lt;BR/&gt;After leaving Cornell, Fr. Ed Ondrako, OFM, went on sabbatical at a seminary in Staten Island.  During that time, he served as a visiting priest at the Church of Notre Dame in Manhattan (114th and Morningside Drive).  More significantly, at least from my point of view, he served as the chaplain to the undergraduates at Columbia University (Columbia Catholic Campus Ministry).  I remember interacting with him on several occasions during my first two years as an undergrad at Columbia.  I also remember his eloquent, poignant, and truly Catholic homilies.&lt;BR/&gt;Upon discovering Fr. Ed Ondrako had left my sister's (Catharina Senensis) university only to appear at mine, my sister and I lamented that he had left a place that was truly in need of him.  However, the Lord does have His reasons, and I am thankful that He blessed Cornell with several devout and strong laity :)&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;-Michaela (younger sister of Catharina Senensis)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello!  My posting deals not so much with the history of the Cornell Society for a Good Time, but rather with the whereabouts of one of the more orthodox chaplains who had left Cornell University.  I thought that the Cornell SGT members would appreciate an update, especially when it reminds us that there are no coincidences.<br />After leaving Cornell, Fr. Ed Ondrako, OFM, went on sabbatical at a seminary in Staten Island.  During that time, he served as a visiting priest at the Church of Notre Dame in Manhattan (114th and Morningside Drive).  More significantly, at least from my point of view, he served as the chaplain to the undergraduates at Columbia University (Columbia Catholic Campus Ministry).  I remember interacting with him on several occasions during my first two years as an undergrad at Columbia.  I also remember his eloquent, poignant, and truly Catholic homilies.<br />Upon discovering Fr. Ed Ondrako had left my sister&#8217;s (Catharina Senensis) university only to appear at mine, my sister and I lamented that he had left a place that was truly in need of him.  However, the Lord does have His reasons, and I am thankful that He blessed Cornell with several devout and strong laity :)</p>
<p>-Michaela (younger sister of Catharina Senensis)</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Mar 2006 02:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great History Folks!&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;BTW, where the heck were you guys back in '02? I ended up getting involved in a prot group on campus because they were less of a danger to my soul than the CCC! lol&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;God Bless,&lt;BR/&gt;Maria</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great History Folks!</p>
<p>BTW, where the heck were you guys back in &#8216;02? I ended up getting involved in a prot group on campus because they were less of a danger to my soul than the CCC! lol</p>
<p>God Bless,<br />Maria</p>
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		<title>By: Iosephus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iosephus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 18:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very cool.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Another guy it would have been nice to have met, though I guess he left the area before I got to Cornell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very cool.</p>
<p>Another guy it would have been nice to have met, though I guess he left the area before I got to Cornell.</p>
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		<title>By: Aristotle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aristotle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2006 08:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vocations from the Diocese of Rochester...hmm.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I met a fellow at Juventutem/WYD 2005 who survived similar campus ministry antics at Ithaca College (class of '03 if I remember correctly).&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;He's currently in the middle of his first year at the FSSP seminary in Nebraska.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vocations from the Diocese of Rochester&#8230;hmm.</p>
<p>I met a fellow at Juventutem/WYD 2005 who survived similar campus ministry antics at Ithaca College (class of &#8216;03 if I remember correctly).</p>
<p>He&#8217;s currently in the middle of his first year at the FSSP seminary in Nebraska.</p>
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		<title>By: Iosephus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iosephus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 19:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Vocations? In the Diocese of Rochester?  Isn't that an oxymoron?&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Well, if that's the bishop's plan, to draw vocations for the diocese from the campus of Cornell, I'm afraid he'll be sorely disappointed.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;As it turns out, there are a number of people at Cornell seriously considering vocations, and not one of them has been fostered or encouraged by the chaplaincy, and each one of them is in horror of Bishop Clark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Vocations? In the Diocese of Rochester?  Isn&#8217;t that an oxymoron?</p>
<p>Well, if that&#8217;s the bishop&#8217;s plan, to draw vocations for the diocese from the campus of Cornell, I&#8217;m afraid he&#8217;ll be sorely disappointed.</p>
<p>As it turns out, there are a number of people at Cornell seriously considering vocations, and not one of them has been fostered or encouraged by the chaplaincy, and each one of them is in horror of Bishop Clark.</p>
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		<title>By: Fr. Philip N. Powell, OP</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fr. Philip N. Powell, OP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jan 2006 07:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Can you pull some strings to have a few solid Dominicans take over the campus ministry here at Cornell in the St. Joseph Province as well?"&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I'm afraid for now that my prayers will have to suffice.  I don't have any strings to pull in my own province much less the Eastern Province!  I've only been solemnly professed for two years and ordained a priest for seven months. Campus ministries are tricky b/c bishops like to keep them around for vocations.  However, they can budget-problems if the diocese is picking up the tab.  My guess is that your bishop would not easily surrender a prestigous campus like Cornell to a religious order.  But if you want to try, write to the EDP Provincial, Fr. Dominic Izzo, in NYC and ask for a friar or two.  You might get lucky.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Fr. Philip, OP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Can you pull some strings to have a few solid Dominicans take over the campus ministry here at Cornell in the St. Joseph Province as well?&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m afraid for now that my prayers will have to suffice.  I don&#8217;t have any strings to pull in my own province much less the Eastern Province!  I&#8217;ve only been solemnly professed for two years and ordained a priest for seven months. Campus ministries are tricky b/c bishops like to keep them around for vocations.  However, they can budget-problems if the diocese is picking up the tab.  My guess is that your bishop would not easily surrender a prestigous campus like Cornell to a religious order.  But if you want to try, write to the EDP Provincial, Fr. Dominic Izzo, in NYC and ask for a friar or two.  You might get lucky.</p>
<p>Fr. Philip, OP</p>
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		<title>By: DominicMaria</title>
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		<dc:creator>DominicMaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 20:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a quickie about Fr. Dan and Fr. Bob not wearing the Roman collar around campus.  I attended Mass here at home over this break at Franciscan University and the priest during his daily Mass homily mentioned  that:&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;A priest or religous without their habit or collar is like a blank billboard...you don't know what they are advertising.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;One of many solid daily Mass homilies at Franciscan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a quickie about Fr. Dan and Fr. Bob not wearing the Roman collar around campus.  I attended Mass here at home over this break at Franciscan University and the priest during his daily Mass homily mentioned  that:</p>
<p>A priest or religous without their habit or collar is like a blank billboard&#8230;you don&#8217;t know what they are advertising.</p>
<p>One of many solid daily Mass homilies at Franciscan!</p>
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		<title>By: DominicMaria</title>
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		<dc:creator>DominicMaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 19:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fr. Philip,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I am glad you are praying for us here at Cornell.  Can you pull some strings to have a few solid Dominicans take over the campus ministry here at Cornell in the St. Joseph Province as well? I have this wild imagination that once one becomes a priest he can not only pray for people but also pull strings!!  Thanks for the prayers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fr. Philip,</p>
<p>I am glad you are praying for us here at Cornell.  Can you pull some strings to have a few solid Dominicans take over the campus ministry here at Cornell in the St. Joseph Province as well? I have this wild imagination that once one becomes a priest he can not only pray for people but also pull strings!!  Thanks for the prayers!</p>
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		<title>By: DominicMaria</title>
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		<dc:creator>DominicMaria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 19:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clara,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I believe I was at the Mass you mentioned...and I remember thinking after the Mass how solid the homily was.  I remember Fr. Leo speaking of a parishoner telling him that "he doesn't need to come to Mass to meet God...he can meet him fishing on his boat."  Fr. Leo then added that it is true that God will meet us while fishing...but God tells us to come to Mass on sunday. I had never imagined Fr. Leo would promote people to come to Mass on Sunday but it was very nice to hear!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clara,</p>
<p>I believe I was at the Mass you mentioned&#8230;and I remember thinking after the Mass how solid the homily was.  I remember Fr. Leo speaking of a parishoner telling him that &#8220;he doesn&#8217;t need to come to Mass to meet God&#8230;he can meet him fishing on his boat.&#8221;  Fr. Leo then added that it is true that God will meet us while fishing&#8230;but God tells us to come to Mass on sunday. I had never imagined Fr. Leo would promote people to come to Mass on Sunday but it was very nice to hear!</p>
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		<title>By: Ambrosius</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ambrosius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 02:46:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iosephus,&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I have to agree: comments that work in conversation can fall flat and cause false impressions in print.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iosephus,</p>
<p>I have to agree: comments that work in conversation can fall flat and cause false impressions in print.</p>
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		<title>By: Catharina Senensis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Catharina Senensis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jan 2006 02:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Iosephus - I agree with anonymous that subtle humor is unhelpful.  Certainly at a superficial glance, we seem more in line with sede vacantists than with your typical AmCatholic.  Neither do derisional comments like "JP2 worshippers" help.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Iosephus - I agree with anonymous that subtle humor is unhelpful.  Certainly at a superficial glance, we seem more in line with sede vacantists than with your typical AmCatholic.  Neither do derisional comments like &#8220;JP2 worshippers&#8221; help.</p>
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		<title>By: Clara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 23:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, well, I was scolded for my ingratitude, as my second post suggests. I just figured that the Doctor needed no public thanks, since his efforts have been rewarded in a different way.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt; For the sake of anyone who feels left out by this "insider" exchange... the Doctor Asinorum is a member of our group who has now graduated and moved on. His efforts on my behalf were nothing short of Herculean but may not have been entirely disinterested; we're now engaged to be married.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt; So, you see, the SGT really does accomplish great things. Even beyond saving souls, it has managed to find a wife for a poor doctoral student who had almost given up hope.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, well, I was scolded for my ingratitude, as my second post suggests. I just figured that the Doctor needed no public thanks, since his efforts have been rewarded in a different way.</p>
<p> For the sake of anyone who feels left out by this &#8220;insider&#8221; exchange&#8230; the Doctor Asinorum is a member of our group who has now graduated and moved on. His efforts on my behalf were nothing short of Herculean but may not have been entirely disinterested; we&#8217;re now engaged to be married.</p>
<p> So, you see, the SGT really does accomplish great things. Even beyond saving souls, it has managed to find a wife for a poor doctoral student who had almost given up hope.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Iosephus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iosephus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 23:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Susque deque habeo.  We're not writing this blog for neo-cons and JPII worshippers.  At least one of the "chaplains" at Cornell thinks that we're sede vacantists as well, that's why I said it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Susque deque habeo.  We&#8217;re not writing this blog for neo-cons and JPII worshippers.  At least one of the &#8220;chaplains&#8221; at Cornell thinks that we&#8217;re sede vacantists as well, that&#8217;s why I said it.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 22:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"even sede vacantists like us"&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Subtle irony may yet be your undoing.  If/when liberal -- and "conservative"! -- detractors find this site, this is the sort of thing they will latch onto.  If you'd written "ultramontanists," there'd be no occasion for objection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;even sede vacantists like us&#8221;</p>
<p>Subtle irony may yet be your undoing.  If/when liberal &#8212; and &#8220;conservative&#8221;! &#8212; detractors find this site, this is the sort of thing they will latch onto.  If you&#8217;d written &#8220;ultramontanists,&#8221; there&#8217;d be no occasion for objection.</p>
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		<title>By: Iosephus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iosephus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 22:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clara, and no thanks to the efforts of the good Doctor Asinorum??&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Ambrosius and I (not to mention One Step) stormed heaven for your sake, but the Doctor did drive you.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clara, and no thanks to the efforts of the good Doctor Asinorum??</p>
<p>Ambrosius and I (not to mention One Step) stormed heaven for your sake, but the Doctor did drive you.  :)</p>
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		<title>By: Iosephus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iosephus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 21:51:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fidei Defensori: backlash??  The semiviri who run the chaplaincy at Cornell can't handle open conflict; they only understand dialogue.  So if you asked them, they'd probably tell you that we've been in serious "dialogue" for a long time.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Moreover, there greatest aspiration in life is to be inclusive.  For them this is the summum bonum, the end of human existence, the toleration of all.  Some liberals of course, fail miserably on this point, but our chaplains are actually pretty good at being inclusive: they want to welcome Catholics of all stripes, even sede vacantists like us.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;With that policy of toleration in place, we get along with them fairly well and for the rest, they forgive us out of their deep Christian charity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fidei Defensori: backlash??  The semiviri who run the chaplaincy at Cornell can&#8217;t handle open conflict; they only understand dialogue.  So if you asked them, they&#8217;d probably tell you that we&#8217;ve been in serious &#8220;dialogue&#8221; for a long time.</p>
<p>Moreover, there greatest aspiration in life is to be inclusive.  For them this is the summum bonum, the end of human existence, the toleration of all.  Some liberals of course, fail miserably on this point, but our chaplains are actually pretty good at being inclusive: they want to welcome Catholics of all stripes, even sede vacantists like us.</p>
<p>With that policy of toleration in place, we get along with them fairly well and for the rest, they forgive us out of their deep Christian charity.</p>
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		<title>By: Clara</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 09:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have been prompted to make to amendments to the above post. First, while the words I attributed to Fr. Leo of Immaculate Conception are at least very close to what he said, I did not write them down and so cannot vouch for them actually being a precise quotation.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt; Secondly, there was some other guy who also had a lot to do with my being received into the Church at the FSSP parish... I can't quite remember his name though...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have been prompted to make to amendments to the above post. First, while the words I attributed to Fr. Leo of Immaculate Conception are at least very close to what he said, I did not write them down and so cannot vouch for them actually being a precise quotation.</p>
<p> Secondly, there was some other guy who also had a lot to do with my being received into the Church at the FSSP parish&#8230; I can&#8217;t quite remember his name though&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Clara</title>
		<link>http://www.cornellsociety.org/2005/12/revolution-and-counter-revolution-catholics-vs-cornell-catholic-community/#comment-1918</link>
		<dc:creator>Clara</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2006 08:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A funny story about general absolutions services. I went to Mass at Immaculate Conception one week before Christmas, and was by the end almost ready to be impressed with Fr. Leo for once. In his homily he mentioned having told a couple requesting a sacrament (he didn't say which one, presumably either matrimony or baptism for a child) that they needed to start coming to Mass regularly. That may seem small, but coming from Fr. Leo, I thought it was a positive sign. Then, at the end of Mass, he mentioned that they were having some sort of reconciliation service during the following week and that people were encouraged to come. But, he warned, it was "no longer" sufficient to merely come to the service. The Church has declared that all Catholics must confess their sins *individually* to a priest in order to be absolved of mortal sins (except in cases of extreme emergency), and so extra priests would be coming in for the purpose and everyone was urged to go individually to confession at some point in the service.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;  "Wow!" I thought. "Orthodoxy from Fr. Leo!" I'd never been so impressed at Immaculate Conception Church before. But my joy was premature, because immediately after giving the above explanation, he ruined it.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt; "I don't really know what the Vatican is thinking," he continued bitterly. "I sometimes think that all they want is to make more work for priests. It's like they're afraid someone will slip through the cracks, not really be sorry, and so they insist that priests have to listen to every single sin, it's just..." &lt;BR/&gt;  He paused, perhaps realizing that it looks a bit bad to tell your congregation point-blank that you are bored by their sins. He amended, "It's just that sometimes you get a person coming back to the Church after twenty or thirty years and you can't spend any time with them because you have to be thinking about the line. It's just terrible."&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;  My happy mood was spoiled, but it's nice to see that that even Fr. Leo has been put under pressure to start actually hearing confessions.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt; On a happier note, we are indeed blessed to have a student group like this at Cornell. Thanks to the efforts of Ambrosius, Iosephus and others, I entered the Church in an FSSP parish and not under the instruction of either Sister Donna or the folks at the parish mentioned above, and from the time of my arrival at Cornell I've been immersed in Rosary-praying and other wholesome Catholic activities instead of the heterodox writings of Richard McBrian. And the CCC chaplains don't even know who I am. Groups like the SGT may not be able to fix everything, but in the lives of a few of us they can make a tremendous difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A funny story about general absolutions services. I went to Mass at Immaculate Conception one week before Christmas, and was by the end almost ready to be impressed with Fr. Leo for once. In his homily he mentioned having told a couple requesting a sacrament (he didn&#8217;t say which one, presumably either matrimony or baptism for a child) that they needed to start coming to Mass regularly. That may seem small, but coming from Fr. Leo, I thought it was a positive sign. Then, at the end of Mass, he mentioned that they were having some sort of reconciliation service during the following week and that people were encouraged to come. But, he warned, it was &#8220;no longer&#8221; sufficient to merely come to the service. The Church has declared that all Catholics must confess their sins *individually* to a priest in order to be absolved of mortal sins (except in cases of extreme emergency), and so extra priests would be coming in for the purpose and everyone was urged to go individually to confession at some point in the service.</p>
<p>  &#8220;Wow!&#8221; I thought. &#8220;Orthodoxy from Fr. Leo!&#8221; I&#8217;d never been so impressed at Immaculate Conception Church before. But my joy was premature, because immediately after giving the above explanation, he ruined it.</p>
<p> &#8220;I don&#8217;t really know what the Vatican is thinking,&#8221; he continued bitterly. &#8220;I sometimes think that all they want is to make more work for priests. It&#8217;s like they&#8217;re afraid someone will slip through the cracks, not really be sorry, and so they insist that priests have to listen to every single sin, it&#8217;s just&#8230;&#8221; <br />  He paused, perhaps realizing that it looks a bit bad to tell your congregation point-blank that you are bored by their sins. He amended, &#8220;It&#8217;s just that sometimes you get a person coming back to the Church after twenty or thirty years and you can&#8217;t spend any time with them because you have to be thinking about the line. It&#8217;s just terrible.&#8221;</p>
<p>  My happy mood was spoiled, but it&#8217;s nice to see that that even Fr. Leo has been put under pressure to start actually hearing confessions.</p>
<p> On a happier note, we are indeed blessed to have a student group like this at Cornell. Thanks to the efforts of Ambrosius, Iosephus and others, I entered the Church in an FSSP parish and not under the instruction of either Sister Donna or the folks at the parish mentioned above, and from the time of my arrival at Cornell I&#8217;ve been immersed in Rosary-praying and other wholesome Catholic activities instead of the heterodox writings of Richard McBrian. And the CCC chaplains don&#8217;t even know who I am. Groups like the SGT may not be able to fix everything, but in the lives of a few of us they can make a tremendous difference.</p>
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